{"id":17079,"date":"2012-09-21T17:17:09","date_gmt":"2012-09-21T21:17:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/?p=17079"},"modified":"2012-09-21T23:17:25","modified_gmt":"2012-09-22T03:17:25","slug":"who-said-if-you-have-to-ask-the-price-you-cant-afford-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/who-said-if-you-have-to-ask-the-price-you-cant-afford-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Said &#8220;If You Have to Ask the Price, You Can&#8217;t Afford It&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this week, in my post <a href=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/get-smart-about-4000-suits-and-10000-rings\/\" target=\"_blank\">Get Smart (About $4,000 Suits and $10,000 Rings)<\/a>, I wrote, &#8220;Ultra-high-end is a stronger industry sector, so I\u2019ve embarked on a deliberate effort to offer more <strong>&#8216;if you have to ask, you can\u2019t afford it&#8217;<\/strong> 18K-gold signature pieces.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Variations of the line &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.businesswire.com\/news\/home\/20110216005329\/en\/J.-Pierpont-Morgan%E2%80%99s-poker-chips-yacht-Corsair\" target=\"_blank\">If you have to ask the price, you can&#8217;t afford it<\/a>&#8221; are attributed to U.S. financier <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/J._P._Morgan\" target=\"_blank\">J.P. Morgan (1837 &#8211; 1913)<\/a>. But one needs to be careful with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/bon%20mot\" target=\"_blank\"><em>bon mots<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0 A lot of good lines are credited to people who didn&#8217;t say them. The incorrect attributions gain credibility as they are repeated<em> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ad_infinitum\" target=\"_blank\">ad infinitum<\/a><\/em> online. Be especially wary of anything attributed to what Frank Shapiro, the editor of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Yale-Book-Quotations-Fred-Shapiro\/dp\/0300107986\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Yale Book of Quotations<\/em><\/a><em>,<\/em> calls &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.freakonomics.com\/2011\/07\/21\/i-never-said-most-of-the-things-i-said\/\" target=\"_blank\">quotation magnets<\/a>&#8221; such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Oscar-Wildes-Wit-Wisdom-Quotations\/dp\/0486401464\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Twain<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/The-Yogi-Book-Really-Everything\/dp\/0761115684\" target=\"_blank\">baseball great Yogi Berra<\/a>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.freakonomics.com\/2011\/08\/11\/the-accidental-wisdom-of-yogi-berra\/\" target=\"_blank\">As Yogi Berra pointed out<\/a>, &#8220;I really didn\u2019t say everything I said.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When faced with an interesting quotation, I like to get <em>Bartlett&#8217;s Familiar Quotations<\/em> out of the bookcase.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17080\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Bartletts-Familiar-Quotations-Collection-Literature\/dp\/0316084603\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1348253249&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=bartlett%27s\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17080\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17080\" title=\"bartletts\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/bartletts.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/bartletts.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/bartletts-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17080\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I have this, the 16th edition; I need to upgrade to the 17th. Click to purchase on Amazon.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Online, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bartleby.com<\/a> searchs Bartlett&#8217;s and other sources. That&#8217;s where you can find out that &#8220;There&#8217;s nothing new under the sun&#8221; has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Yale-Book-Quotations-Fred-Shapiro\/dp\/0300107986\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartleby.com\/73\/1301.html\" target=\"_blank\">various authors<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Yale-Book-Quotations-Fred-Shapiro\/dp\/0300107986\" target=\"_blank\">.&#8221;<\/a>\u00a0 Another source for attribution is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/The-Quote-Verifier-Said-Where\/dp\/product-description\/0312340044\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Quote Verifier<\/em><\/a>. According to that book, there&#8217;s no &#8220;dependable evidence&#8221; that J.P. Morgan said the &#8220;If you have to ask &#8230;&#8221; line the way it is normally written, though the supposed quote might indeed capture Morgan&#8217;s sentiments. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/The-Quote-Verifier-Said-Where\/dp\/product-description\/0312340044\" target=\"_blank\"><em>The Quote Verifier<\/em> cites<\/a> Morgan biographer<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jeanstrouse.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Jean Strouse<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Strouse concluded, &#8216;Morgan was a singularly inarticulate, unreflective man, not likely to come up with a maxim worthy of Oscar Wilde.&#8217; The closest analogue Strouse could find on the record was Morgan&#8217;s response to oil baron Henry Clay Pierce: &#8216;You have no right to own a yacht if you ask that question.'&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wherever it came from, when I use &#8220;if you have to ask, you can\u2019t afford it,&#8221; it&#8217;s because the inaccuracy of it amuses me. (It also reminds me of Sheila E.&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=bBJg5HBb18A\" target=\"_blank\">Glamorous Life<\/a>,&#8221; with its line, &#8220;if you have to ask you can&#8217;t afford it lingerie.&#8221;) From personal experience, I can promise you that, in the U.S., not only will billionaires ask for the price, they&#8217;ll ask for a discount. Hey, everyone here likes to save a buck. (Conspicuous consumers from other countries will, according to many of my business acquaintances, buy without asking, as long as they&#8217;re sure the price is <em>high<\/em> enough for them.)\u00a0 Years ago, my wealthy American friend &#8212; let&#8217;s call her Mrs. Moneybanks &#8212; suggested a tricky way I could save money on a purchase and, to encourage me, said, &#8220;That&#8217;s what I would do!&#8221; I said, &#8220;But Mrs. Moneybanks! You wouldn&#8217;t have to do that. You&#8217;re rich!&#8221; She retorted, &#8220;How do you think I got so rich?&#8221; Good point, Mrs. Moneybanks.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, sometimes customers are required to ask. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve seen the words &#8220;Price available upon request&#8221; next to many prestigious brand names on the pages of fashion magazines.\u00a0 What that often means is: &#8220;The designer isn&#8217;t forthcoming about the price because the item is very expensive; don&#8217;t make everyone feel awkward by inquiring about the price if you&#8217;re on a budget.&#8221;\u00a0 It&#8217;s uncomfortable &#8212; and not a good use of time &#8212; to answer a lot of questions about a $20,000 necklace for a buyer for whom $200 is out of the question.<\/p>\n<p>Every brand has different standards for &#8220;you have to ask.&#8221; You can buy a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.harrywinston.com\/store\/jewels\/necklaces\/products\/necklaces-sunflowernecklace\" target=\"_blank\">$164,000 diamond necklace from Harry Winston online<\/a>, for example, but you need to request assistance if you&#8217;re interested in this beyond-exquisite sapphire-and-diamond piece.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17082\" style=\"width: 460px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.harrywinston.com\/store\/jewels\/necklaces\/products\/034-necklace-sunset-necklace\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17082\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17082\" title=\"sunset\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/sunset.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/sunset.png 450w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/sunset-300x293.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17082\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to see on Harry Winston&#8217;s website.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I don&#8217;t (YET!) have anything in Winston&#8217;s range, but I&#8217;m not <a href=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/category\/topshop\/\" target=\"_blank\">Topshop<\/a> either. So, you can buy my $14,000 peridot-and-diamond <a href=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/2010\/01\/jewel-of-the-month-susan-earrings\/\" target=\"_blank\">Susan earrings<\/a> online &#8230;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17083\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/store\/products.php?product=Susan-Earrings\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17083\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17083\" title=\"Peridot_Diamond_Earrings__80921_std\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Peridot_Diamond_Earrings__80921_std.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Peridot_Diamond_Earrings__80921_std.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Peridot_Diamond_Earrings__80921_std-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Peridot_Diamond_Earrings__80921_std-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17083\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to purchase.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&#8230; but you have to ask about my Empress Wu dragon earrings.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17084\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/store\/products.php?product=Empress-Wu-Dragon-Earrings\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17084\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17084\" title=\"EmpressEar_A1__66400_std\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/EmpressEar_A1__66400_std1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/EmpressEar_A1__66400_std1.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/EmpressEar_A1__66400_std1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/EmpressEar_A1__66400_std1-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17084\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to see more photos, but not to purchase.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>And even if you&#8217;re a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Russian_oligarchs\" target=\"_blank\">Russian oligarch<\/a> with money to burn, you won&#8217;t get any information from me if you send me anything like the highlarious email I received today from &#8220;strongngentle4life&#8221; about my one-of-a-kind (size 6 only) onyx skull ring.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;First off, this is bull!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/contact.php\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Contact us<\/a> for pricing. Serious inquiries only.&#8221; ?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>How can someone be serious when you&#8217;re obviously not?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Either way: What&#8217;s the co$t on a size 11, 13, and\/or 14 in the ** Onyx Skull Ring &amp; how soon can I get one to LA?&#8221;<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I literally <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/store\/products.php?product=LOL-Rings\" target=\"_blank\">LOL<\/a>&#8216;d while I replied that those sizes were not available. I did NOT elaborate on the &#8220;co$t.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17085\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/store\/products.php?product=Onyx-Skull-Ring\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17085\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17085\" title=\"Onyx_Skull_Ring_A1__76505_std\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Onyx_Skull_Ring_A1__76505_std.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Onyx_Skull_Ring_A1__76505_std.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Onyx_Skull_Ring_A1__76505_std-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Onyx_Skull_Ring_A1__76505_std-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17085\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">No onyx skull for you, bitch!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A painful lesson I&#8217;ve learned over the years is that not all customers are good ones and not every sale is worth making. Here&#8217;s my <a href=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/category\/the-bitchtastic-guide-to-business\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Bitchtastic Guide to Business\u2122<\/a> tip of the day:\u00a0 if you give it away for free, no one is going to volunteer to pay for it later. Applied to my business, that means if I give a new customer with financial means a discount, s\/he will only ask for a steeper discount next time.\u00a0 I could have made a satisfactory amount of money by selling the onyx skull to several discount-seeking 1%-ers over the years. But I could see their other jewelry\/art\/Birkins\/etc. cost many multiples of my asking price. That says to me that they don&#8217;t respect the value of my work. When someone doesn&#8217;t respect the value of my work, the business relationship isn&#8217;t going to be advantageous to me in the long run. I will happily wear the onyx skull ring myself for the rest of my life before I sell it for less than it&#8217;s worth, so if you decide to ask for the price of my top-of-the-line pieces, do it respectfully or do what this $300 necklace suggests:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_17086\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/store\/products.php?product=Letter-Necklace-%252d-Smalll%2C-Silver%2C-GTFOH\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-17086\" class=\"size-full wp-image-17086\" title=\"GTFOH_silver_80__15633_std\" src=\"http:\/\/wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/GTFOH_silver_80__15633_std.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"360\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/GTFOH_silver_80__15633_std.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/GTFOH_silver_80__15633_std-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/GTFOH_silver_80__15633_std-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 360px) 100vw, 360px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-17086\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Get the Fuck Outta Here&#8221; necklace in sterling silver. Click to purchase for $300.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.urbandictionary.com\/define.php?term=kthxbai\" target=\"_blank\">Kthxbai<\/a>! <\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Earlier this week, in my post Get Smart (About $4,000 Suits and $10,000 Rings), I wrote, &#8220;Ultra-high-end is a stronger industry sector, so I\u2019ve embarked on a deliberate effort to offer more &#8216;if you have to ask, you can\u2019t afford it&#8217; 18K-gold signature pieces.&#8221; Variations of the line &#8220;If you have to ask the price,&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/who-said-if-you-have-to-ask-the-price-you-cant-afford-it\/\">Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":17080,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[25,60,43,13,355,6,566],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-17079","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-business","8":"category-earrings","9":"category-my-designs","10":"category-necklaces","11":"category-prices","12":"category-rings","13":"category-the-bitchtastic-guide-to-business","14":"entry"},"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17079","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17079"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17079\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17092,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17079\/revisions\/17092"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/17080"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17079"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17079"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wendybrandes.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17079"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}